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<@ulm> !proj council [20:00]
<willikins> (council@gentoo.org) ajak, dilfridge, gyakovlev, mattst88, mgorny,
sam, ulm
<@ulm> agenda is here:
https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/a24e9a4d7c769d9e09f5dc2312ee9452
<@ulm> roll call
* mattst88 here
* dionysos here
* mgorny here
*** dionysos (~quassel@gentoo/developer/dilfridge) is now known as dilfridge
* dilfridge here
* ajak here
<@ajak> sam_: [20:01]
<@ulm> gyakovlev: sam_:
* ulm here
<@ulm> let's wait until 19:05 [20:02]
<@dilfridge> happy new year everyone, let it have less unpleasant surprises
than the last one
<@ulm> I expect this to be a short meeting anyway
* mattst88 is going to remember to try to avoid chairing Nov/Dec meetings in
the future :P [20:03]
* dilfridge is going to remember to try to avoid chairing
<@ajak> lol
<@ulm> so, 5 council members are present, so we have a quorum [20:05]
<@ulm> let's proceed
<@ulm> open bugs
<@ulm> there's only one public bug
<@ulm> bug 729062
<willikins> ulm: https://bugs.gentoo.org/729062 "Services and Software which
is critical for Gentoo should be developed/run in the Gentoo
namespace"; Gentoo Council, unspecified; IN_P; jstein:council
<@ulm> any progress there? [20:06]
<@ajak> i'd say we should reassign it elsewhere but not sure if there's
anywhere better to assign it
<@mattst88> don't think so
<@ajak> but, nothing for us to do now anyway
<@mattst88> I think we should definitely unassign it
<@ulm> I'm going to ping jstein about what to do there
<@ulm> there's two private bugs, but I don't think there's progress for these
either [20:07]
<@ulm> so, proceed to open floor?
<@ajak> but isn't there glep76 movement?
<@ulm> it's not on the agenda [20:08]
<@ajak>
https://gitweb.gentoo.org/data/glep.git/commit/?h=glep76&id=f8c192768983929e0d028d58e32e3e6e9b4d8458
was approved last time
<@ajak> it's relevant to one of the private bugs
<@ulm> it's waiting for trustees approval
<@ajak> ah [20:09]
<@ulm> or at least I think that was the conclusion last time
<@ulm> open floor
<+arthurzam> I'm sorry, but I still see missing summaries in
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/Meeting_logs
<@ulm> I've one item [20:10]
<@ulm> arthurzam: can you file a bug, or shall I?
<+arthurzam> ulm: better you, as I'm very tired
<@ajak> i don't think that's necessary, matt's written them and sent them for
review to coucnil@
<@ajak> council@*
<@dilfridge> 2022 in retrospect is under construction [20:11]
<@ajak> so just waiting for a push i guess?
<@ulm> ah, right :)
<+arthurzam> ok, thank you :)
<@ulm>
https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-pms/message/3f70244e989c0e1f2fe7759f85bc06a5
<@ajak> mattst88: please push nov/dec meeting summaries
<@ulm> this is a clarification for variable scope of D [20:12]
<@ulm> and ED
<@ulm> basically, we'd update PMS to follow portage there
<@dilfridge> thanks
<+arthurzam> (pkgcore & pkgcheck are simple to update to match, so not a
blocker)
<@ulm> just wanting to make the council aware of it
<@mgorny> i can't say i like it [20:13]
<@mgorny> but that's probably something to be discussed on #-pms
<@mgorny> (sorry, didn't have time earlier) [20:14]
<@ulm> mgorny: it's a restriction that belongs in tree policy, not something
to be enforced by the PM
<@ulm> so, do I push this, or do we vote on it in the next meeting?
<@mgorny> i'm not council-blocking it but please give it some more thought
after hearing me out ;-) [20:15]
<@mgorny> because i feel like we're addressing the wrong problem here
<@ulm> well, either we update PMS, or we have portage enforce current PMS
wording
<@ulm> which will make all hell break loose
<@mattst88> ajak: I pushed the summaries a bit before the meeting
<@ajak> oh thanks [20:16]
<@ajak> in that case i'll update the page
<@mgorny> ulm: we can also choose the hard way, and make portage qawarn people
into using D properly
<@mgorny> with minimal direct fallout [20:17]
<@ajak> ah nevermind, you just did it :)
<@mgorny> ulm: ah, sorry, i've just reread the patch
<@mgorny> you're saying ebuilds are not allowed to put files there before
src_install, so i'm fine with the change as-is [20:18]
<@ulm> anyway, I suggest we discuss the PMS change on mailing lists if
necessary
<@ulm> since we won't have much progress here
<@ulm> anything else for open floor? [20:19]
* ulm bangs the gavel [20:20]
<@ulm> meeting closed
<@mgorny> thanks!
<@ajak> thanks!
<@ulm> thanks everybody
<@dilfridge> thanks
*** ulm (~ulm@gentoo/developer/ulm) has set the topic for #gentoo-council:
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